"I think it's probably still very hard and painful and I don't speak to him enough. I love him. I have brothers from him and I had a whole family with them," Liv said of Rundgren,

Liv Tyler is opening up about her complicated family dynamics. The actress, 47, reflected on how her stepdad, Todd Rundgren, was impacted by discovering her biological father was Steven Tyler. On Monday’s episode of the “Sibling Revelry” podcast,

After explaining that Steven, 77, forged a friendship with his ex, Liv’s mother, Bebe Buell, when Liv was age “8 or 9,” Liv said Steven arranged to meet Buell, 71, at “one of Todd’s shows” in Boston, which was “very painful for Todd.” (Rundgren, 76, was a member of the bands Nazz and Utopia, and performs as a solo artist.)